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Kristin Davis, who calls herself the “Manhattan Madam” and who is a
convicted prostitute who served four months in prison allegedly for
supplying call girls to New York Governor Elliott Spitzer, is running
for Governor of New York State.

Her campaign has generated more publicity thus far than any other
candidate and thus she must be taken seriously.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-a...-for-governor/
http://gothamist.com/2010/02/07/manh..._go.php#_login

One controversy concerns the fact that she wants to have prostitution
regulated by the government. This raises the question of how this
regulation would work. One imagines that there would be licensed
whores standing on street corners wearing their badges much as
licensed street vendors and hot dog salesman stand on the streets of
New York City today.

Or, would the girls be confined to whore houses, out of the sight of
the general public? Would there be a red light district, the only
place where the whores could stand?

When I was a taxi driver I learned some of the places where the whores
stand. Two of those places were on the corner of 28th Street and
Lexington in Manhattan and the corner of 23 rd Street and 23 rd Avenue
in Queens and near to the entrances to the Queens side of the
Queensboro Bridge. Some nights there would be as many as one hundred
girls standing in these places between Midnight and 6:00 AM. This was
an organized operation, because around 6:00 AM big charter buses would
come and pick all the girls up.

Back in the last part of 1975 and early 1976 a loophole in the law was
discovered which made it virtually impossible for the police to arrest
and prosecute the prostitutes in whorehouses. As a result, dozens of
little whorehouse sprung up all around Midtown Manhattan. One was the
Derby Club, located in the Diamond District on 47th between 6th and
Fifth Avenues just two doors from the corner of the Sixth. It was a
high end place that charged $10 a throw. The Biggest was the Pleasure
Seekers Club on the SW Corner of 45th Street and 8th Avenue. Hundreds
of girls worked there and they only charged $8 per lay. The place was
very popular. However, the FBI closed them down. Turned out the girls
were from Columbia, South America. The operators were convicted in
federal court for violations of the immigration laws and received long
prison sentences.

More of the girls however were American, nice looking girls barely out
of high school. What this proved was that there were thousands of
girls interested in doing this kind of work, if it was legal.

By mid-1976, however, these little whorehouses were all closed down,
not for prostitution but for violations of the zoning laws. A loophole
had been found that closed the loophole that made prostitution
effectively legal.

A ballot measure last year to make Prostitution legal in San Francisco
failed but attracted 41% of the vote. Prostitution is legal in
Holland, Japan and many other countries around the world. The question
is: Should it be made legal in the USA and what form should it take?
Should the girls be allowed to stand in the street or must they stay
inside?

Sam Sloan
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Old March 7th 10, 09:20 PM posted to talk.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.libertarian,nyc.politics,ny.politics,rec.games.chess.politics
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On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 4:04 PM, jdobrian wrote:
Sam, it's an interesting question. Where do you stand on it?
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Joseph Dobrian


As a Libertarian I believe that a woman has as a matter of human
rights the right to sell her own body.

The question is the details. Should it be licensed, tax and
regulated?: Kirstin Davis, the Manhattan Madam, states that by taxing
and regulating it the government will get a lot of money. This may be
a major selling point to help get it passed.

My view however is we should sit under a big tent. Just get it
legalized now and then work out the details later.

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Old March 7th 10, 09:32 PM posted to talk.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.libertarian,nyc.politics,ny.politics,rec.games.chess.politics
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Another place where the whores stood was the Corner of 41st Avenue and
Crescent Street in Queens, near the entrance to the Queensboro Bridge.

However, that raises another question because the whores that stood
there were actually men. They were very convincing transvestites.
Should there be a disclosure law? Should a prostitute be required to
reveal whether she is actually a woman or a man? How will this be
enforced?

Sam Sloan

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On Mar 7, 4:07*pm, samsloan wrote:
Legalization of Prostitution

Kristin Davis, who calls herself the “Manhattan Madam” and who is a
convicted prostitute who served four months in prison allegedly for
supplying call girls to New York Governor Elliott Spitzer, is running
for Governor of New York State.

Her campaign has generated more publicity thus far than any other
candidate


that's because sex sells to horny idiots like you.

Like when you give those LOOOOOONG narratives about some up-and-coming
female player, then end with..."and she's attractive!" (SHOCKING!)

I'm surprised no one has bothered to honey-trap Sam yet. He'd be a
****ing sitting duck.
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