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Felix Steiner

Die Freiwilligen

Der Waffen – SS

- Idee und Opfergang -

or

The Volunteers of the Waffen - SS

Introduction by Sam Sloan

Felix Steiner was a German Reichswehr and Waffen-SS officer who served
in both World War I and World War II. On 1 December 1940, SS-
Brigadeführer Felix Steiner was appointed to command the new Wiking
Division of the Waffen-SS. This unit was mainly manned by non-German
volunteers, primarily from Holland, Denmark and Sweden, motivated by a
desire to fight the Bolsheviks. Steiner proved to be a skilful
divisional commander and was popular with his men. Steiner commanded
this division during the first two years of the fighting in the Soviet
Union and was awarded the Oakleaves to the Knight's Cross on 23
December 1942.
Until recently, the name of Felix Steiner has been largely unknown
among English language speakers, mainly because he never faced an
English speaking army. Most of his World War II years were spent
fighting the Russians and, earlier, the French.
However, the name of Felix Steiner has suddenly become well-known to
millions of youtube.com viewers on the Internet because of videos
taken from the movie “DOWNFALL: Hitler and the End of the Third Reich”
which have now been added with English language sub-titles. The
original title of the movie was Der Untergang.
The section most watched on Youtube is based in the last meeting Der
Führer had with his top commanders on April 22, 1945. When his top
generals, including Krebs and Jodl, first inform Hitler that Berlin is
surrounded by Russian troops, Hitler brushes them off, saying that
Steiner is about to attack and will clear the area of Russians.
Krebs and Jodl then inform Hitler that Steiner could not launch an
attack because he did not have enough men, in the face of the
overwhelming force of the Russian Army. Hitler then goes into a mad
rage in which he screams “That was an Order” and screams that he has
been betrayed.
Numerous parodies of this youtube video continue to pop-up. They get
erased but pop-up again. These have been watched by millions of
viewers. One popular video is entitled “Hitler finds out that Pokemon
are't real” with 1.2 million viewers thus far. Another one is “Hitler
is Informed His Pizza Will Arrive Late”. There is also a site that
allows the user to write in his own subtitles to create a new parody.
The great proliferation of these parodies has also brought awareness
to the fact that Hitler expected a man with the obviously Jewish name
of Steiner to rescue him.
What the average youtube viewer probably does not realize is that the
words on the original video are the actual words of Hitler. At all of
these meetings, Hitler had stenographers present who took down every
word. The Germans attempted to burn and destroy these records in the
concluding days and hours of the war, but they were substantially
recovered by a team of Americans headed by George R. Allen, who found
the burned and buried but not totally destroyed transcripts and then
hired back almost the entire stenographic team that had worked for
Hitler, except for one who was executed as a war criminal. Thus, the
group that had originally recorded these conferences were given their
old jobs back to re-create these same records.
Hitler's last secretary, Traudl Junge, published her memoirs in 2002
just before her death at age 81. This plus the memoirs of Albert Speer
and Prof. Dr. Ernst-Günter Schenck plus the transcripts give us a
clear picture of what was happening during the final hours of the war.
In this movie, great effort was taken to be historically accurate.
Thirty-seven named real life people are featured as characters in the
film. Everything said by Hitler is believed to be an exact quote of
words actually uttered by Hitler, but not always at the same time as
depicted in the movie. Most of Adolf Hitler's lines of are
historically accurate, based on accounts from Albert Speer and Traudl
Junge. Some of them however are from earlier dates. Here are direct
quotes from the movie, as spoken by Hitler:
That was an order! Steiner's assault was an order! Who do you think
you are to dare disobey an order I give? So this is what it has come
to! The military has been lying to me. Everybody has been lying to me,
even the SS! Our generals are just a bunch of contemptible, disloyal
cowards... Our generals are the scum of the German people! Not a shred
of honor! They call themselves generals. Years at military academy
just to learn how to hold a knife and fork! For years, the military
has hindered my plans! They've put every kind of obstacle in my way!
What I should have done... was liquidate all the high-ranking
officers, as Stalin did!
Adolf Hitler [dictating to secretary] My political statement. Since
1914, when I invested my modest strength in the First World War, which
was forced upon the Reich, over 30 years have passed. In those three
decades, all my thoughts, actions and my life were dictated by my love
for and loyalty to the German people. Centuries will pass, but from
the ruins of our cities and cultural monuments our hatred will be
renewed for those who are responsible, the people to whom we owe all
this: The international Jewry and its supporters.
Adolf Hitler [Screaming after Steiner didn't attack after giving an
order] Traitors! I've been betrayed and deceived from the very
beginning! What a monstrous betrayal of the German people, but all
those traitors will pay. They'll pay with their own blood. They shall
drown in their own blood!
SS-Gruppenführer Hermann Fegelein: Yeah? What do you expect from a
teetotal, non-smoking vegetarian?
Generalfeldmarschall Wilhelm Keitel: The Führer has lost all sense of
reality.
Generaloberst Alfred Jodl: He moves divisions that only exist on his
map. Steiner's scattered unit can hardly defend itself and yet,
Steiner is ordered to attack! It's pure madness!
Hitler would not allow smoking in his Bunker. As a result, we have the
anomaly of men and women at the point of death being told not to
smoke.
One of the first things that happened when the Russians discovered and
broke into the Führerbunker was the Russian women were trying to find
Eva Braun's clothing.
Probably at that time they were trying to find any woman's clothing.
Until the break-up of the Soviet Union in 1990, stylish, beautiful
dresses that Western women wore were almost impossible to obtain in
the Soviet Union.
One great mystery is why did Frau Goebbles kill her six beautiful
children. Hanna Reitsch, a famous pilot who set many flying and
gliding records both before and after the war, flew into the
Führerbunker and landed there just before the Downfall. She offered to
fly the six Goebbles children out to safety in Bavaria. Frau Goebbles,
who had apparently already decided to kill her children, refused this
offer. Hanna Reitsch then took off in her airplane on April 28, 1945
and escaped in spite of Russian efforts to shoot her down.
Rochus Misch, Hitler's bodyguard, was one of the last men to leave
the Führerbunker and is the only one of the 37 men portrayed in the
movie who is still alive today. He is the last known person alive to
have known Hitler personally. For many years, his role was not
generally known. Recently he has become something of a celebrity and
has published his memoirs.
Steiner ranks as one of the most innovative commanders of the Waffen-
SS. He skillfully commanded the SS-Deutschland Regiment through the
invasions of Poland, France and the Low Countries. He was then chosen
by Himmler to oversee the creation of, and then command the volunteer
SS Division, SS-Division Wiking. In 1943, he was promoted to the
command of III (Germanic) SS Panzer Corps.
On 28 January 1945, Steiner was placed in command of the 11th SS
Panzer-Army. His army was part of Army Group Vistula.
On 21 April, during the Battle for Berlin, Steiner was placed in
command of Army Detachment Steiner. On 22 April, the Russians
outnumbered Steiner's worn out and exhausted unit by ten to one.
Hitler gave orders for Steiner's forces through a pincer attack to
envelop 1st Belorussian Front, advancing from north of Berlin. Later
in the day, Steiner made it plain that he did not have the divisions
to do this. On 22 April, at his afternoon situation conference, Hitler
fell into a tearful rage when he realized that his plans of the day
before were not going to be realised.
Imprisoned until 1948, Steiner was cleared of all charges of War
Crimes and after writing several books, died on May 12, 1966.
Felix Martin Julius Steiner was born on May 23, 1896 in Stallupönen,
East Prussia.
In 1914, on the eve of war, Steiner joined the Prussian Officer Corps
as a cadet. During the course of the war, he earned the Iron Cross
first and second class and finished the war as an Oberleutnant.
After the war, Steiner led a unit of Freikorps in the East Prussian
city of Memel. He rejoined the army in 1922 and by 1933 had attained
the rank of Major.
After the NSDAP takeover, Steiner joined the Reichswehr staff and
began work developing new training techniques and tactics.
During this time he was exposed to the training and doctrines of the
Schutzstaffel and Sturmabteilung. He was intrigued by the training
techniques of the SS-Verfügungstruppen (SS-VT, precursors to the
Waffen-SS), which placed emphasis on unit cohesion and trust, with an
informal relationship between the enlisted and commissioned ranks. In
1935, Steiner took command of a Battalion of SS-VT troops, and within
a year had been promoted to SS-Standartenführer and was in command of
the SS-Deutschland Regiment.
The outbreak of war saw Steiner as an SS-Oberführer and still in
charge of the SS-Deutschland. He led his regiment well through
Invasion of Poland and the Battle of France, earning the Knight's
Cross of the Iron Cross on 15 August 1940.
After the early war campaigns, Steiner was chosen by SS-Reichsführer
Heinrich Himmler to oversee the creation of, and then command the new
volunteer SS Division, SS-Division Wiking. The Wiking was made up of
Non-German volunteers, and at the time of its creation consisted
mostly of Dutch, Walloons, and Scandinavians including the Danish
regiment Frikorps Danmark.
In the Wiking Division, Steiner created a capable formation from
disparate elements, and he commanded them competently through the many
battles in the east from 1941 until his promotion to command of the
III (Germanic) SS Panzer Corps.
While there are several incidents documented by historians in which
the division engaged in massacres, the Wiking's official combat record
is clear of any specific War Crimes prosecutions. Steiner said of the
Commissar Order "No rational unit commander could comply with such an
Order". He felt that it was incompatible with soldierly conduct and
would result in a breakdown in military discipline, and that it was
incompatible with giving combat its moral worth. Even if it was on
utilitarian grounds, Steiner felt that the Commissar Order was to be
ignored, as detrimental to good order and discipline.
In January 1945, Steiner along with the III (Germanic) SS Panzer Corps
was transferred from the Courland Pocket to help with the defence of
the German homeland.
The III (Germanic) SS Panzer Corps was assigned to Army Group Vistula
and put under the new Eleventh SS Panzer Army, although this army
really only existed on paper. Once the Soviets reached the Oder,
Eleventh SS Panzer Army became inactive and the III (Germanic) SS
Panzer Corps was re-assigned to the German Third Panzer Army as a
reserve during the Soviets' Berlin Offensive Operation. During the
Battle of Halbe, the first major battle of the offensive, General
Gotthard Heinrici, the commander of Army Group Vistula, transferred
most of the III SS Panzer Corps's divisions to General Theodor Busse's
German Ninth Army.
Steiner had always been one of Hitler's favourite commanders, who
admired his 'get the job done' attitude and the fact that he owed his
allegiance to the Waffen SS, not the Prussian Officer Corps. Joseph
Goebbels also praised Steiner. "He is energetic and purposeful and is
attacking his job with great verve," Goebbels wrote on 1 March 1945.
By 21 April, Soviet Marshal Zhukov's 1st Belorussian Front had broken
through the German lines on the Seelow Heights. Adolf Hitler, ignoring
the facts, started to call the ragtag units that came under Steiner's
command Army Detachment Steiner (Armeeabteilung Steiner). An army
detachment was something more than a corps but less than an army.
Hitler ordered Steiner to attack the northern flank of the huge
salient created by the 1st Belorussian Front's breakout. In
conjunction with Steiner's attack, the Ninth Army under General
Theodor Busse, was to attack from the south in a pincer attack. The
Ninth Army had been pushed to south of the 1st Belorussian Front's
salient. To facilitate this attack, Steiner was assigned the three
divisions of the Ninth Army's CI Army Corps: the 4th SS Polizei
Division, the 5th Jäger Division, and the 25th Panzergrenadier
Division. All three divisions were north of the Finow Canal on the
Northern flank of Zhukov's salient. Weidling's LVI Panzer Corps, which
was still east of Berlin with its northern flank just below
Werneuchen, was also to participate in the attack.
The three divisions from CI Army Corps were to attack south from
Eberswalde on the Finow Canal towards the LVI Panzer Corps. The three
divisions from CI Army Corps were 24 kilometres (about fifteen miles)
east of Berlin and the attack to the south would cut the 1st
Belorussian Front's salient in two.
Steiner called Heinrici and informed him that the plan could not be
implemented because the 5th Jäger Division and the 25th Panzer
Grenadier Division were deployed defensively and could not be
redeployed until the II Naval Division arrived from the coast to
relieve them. This left only two battalions of the 4th SS Police
Division available and they had no combat weapons.
Based on Steiner's assessment, Heinrici called Hans Krebs, Chief of
Staff of the German General Staff of the High Command of the Army
(Oberkommando des Heeres or OKH), and told him that the plan could not
be implemented. Heinrici asked to speak to Hitler, but was told Hitler
was too busy to take his call.
On 22 April 1945, at his afternoon conference, Hitler became aware
that Steiner was not going to attack and he fell into a tearful rage.
Hitler declared that the war was lost, he blamed the generals, and
announced that he would stay on in Berlin until the end and then kill
himself.
On the same day, General Rudolf Holste was given what few mobile
forces Steiner commanded so that he could participate in a new plan to
relieve Berlin. Holste was to attack from the north while General
Walther Wenck attacked from the west and General Theodor Busse
attacked from the south. These attacks amounted to little and, on 27
April, the Soviet forces attacking to the north and to the south of
Berlin linked up to the west of the city.
After the surrender, Steiner was incarcerated until 1948. He faced
charges at the Nuremberg Trials, but they were all dropped and he was
released. He dedicated the last decades of his life to writing his
memoirs and several books about the war, the most important of which
was Die Armee der Geächteten published in 1963. He died on 12 May
1966.
Ishi Press has been publishing books on Hitler and World War II, first
because these books are popular and people buy them and secondly
because of the need to study and be alert to the possibility of a new
Hitler arising right here in the USA. Not to beat around the bush, but
several would-be Hitlers have come close to becoming US President.
These books can be found at almost every bookseller by searching their
“International Sign of the Beast Number”. The current Ishi Press
titles about Hitler and World War II, including the War in Japan, and
their ISBN numbers, a
Hiroshima ISBN 092389165X
Inside the Third Reich ISBN 0923891730
Guests of the Kremlin ISBN 0923891811
Crusade in Europe by Dwight D. Eisenhower ISBN 4871873137
Infiltration: How Heinrich Himmler Schemed to Build an SS Industrial
Empire ISBN 4871878775
Spandau The Secret Diaries ISBN 4871878791
The Loneliest Man in the World The Inside Story of the Thirty Year
Imprisonment of Rudolf Hess ISBN 4871878805
Berlin Diary ISBN 4871878813
Reminiscences by Douglas MacArthur ISBN 4871878821
Mit Hitler im Westen or With Hitler in the West ISBN 487187883X
Speeches by Hitler in 1938 ISBN 487187897X
Tales of the South Pacific ISBN 4871878988
Jugend um Hitler : 120 Bilddokumente aus der Umgebung des Führers
ISBN 4871879100
Triumph of the Will or Der Triumph des Willens ISBN 4871879119
The Kersten Memoirs 1940-1945 ISBN 4871879127
A Life for Hungary: Memoirs of Admiral Nicholas Horthy Regent of
Hungary ISBN 4871879135
Hitler Directs His War The Secret Records of His Daily Military
Conferences ISBN 4871879143
Escape from Freedom ISBN 4871879151
The Rising Sun: The Decline and Fall of the Japanese Empire 1936-1945,
Volume One ISBN 4871879178
The Rising Sun: The Decline and Fall of the Japanese Empire 1936-1945,
Volume Two ISBN 4871879186
Felix Steiner Die Freiwilligen Der Waffen – SS ISBN 4871879194
Hitler's Strategy ISBN 4871879208
The Private Life of Adolf Hitler The Intimate Notes and Diary of Eva
Braun ISBN 4871879216

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Felix Steiner
Die Freiwilligen
Der Waffen – SS
- Idee und Opfergang -
or
The Volunteers of the Waffen - SS
Introduction by Sam Sloan

Felix Steiner was motivated by a desire to be largely unknown among
English language speakers, mainly because his pizza will arrive late.
Hitler expected a man obviously Jewish to burn and destroy the entire
stenographic team, except for one who was executed as a war criminal.

In this movie, thirty-seven people are actually uttered by Hitler, but
not always at the same time. Albert Speer however has been lying to
me! Years just to learn how to hold a knife and fork, as Stalin did!

Since 1914, when I invested my modest strength in international Jewry,
its supporters would not allow smoking. As a result, stylish,
beautiful dresses flew into the Führerbunker and offered to kill her
children.

Worn out and exhausted by the afternoon, Hitler fell into a tearful
rage when he was cleared of all charges.

While several historians engaged in massacres on utilitarian grounds,
Steiner really only existed on paper. Once the ragtag units created by
the south had been pushed north of the Finow Canal, the plan could not
be implemented because the Naval Division arrived from the coast.

To relieve the Police, Hitler announced that he would kill himself. On
the same day, he dedicated the last decades of his life to writing
several books about Ishi Press.
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On Oct 31, 1:36*am, Taylor Kingston wrote:


To relieve the Police, Hitler announced that he would kill himself. On
the same day, he dedicated the last decades of his life to writing
several books about Ishi Press.


Has your Usenet account been hijacked and is somebody spoofing you?

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Felix Steiner
Die Freiwilligen
Der Waffen – SS
- Idee und Opfergang -
or
The Volunteers of the Waffen - SS
Introduction by Sam Sloan

World War I was mainly manned by non-German volunteers, primarily
Bolsheviks. Until recently, an English speaking army did not have
enough men. Hitler, obviously Jewish, took down every German. George
R. Allen found the burned and buried but not totally destroyed Hitler
to re-create.

Everything said by Hitler is believed. Since 1914, when I was forced
upon the Reich, all my thoughts, actions and my life were dictated by
my love for a non-smoking vegetarian.

One of the first things happened when they were trying to find six
beautiful children. Hanna, flying and gliding, flew into the children
in spite of Russian efforts to shoot her down. Rochus Misch was one of
the last men to become something of a celebrity and ranks as one of
the most innovative of the Low Countries. He was then worn out and
exhausted.

Steiner fell into a tearful rage when he was cleared of all charges of
War Crimes. After the NSDAP takeover, he was intrigued by the informal
relationship between Heinrich Himmler and the elements.

While the division engaged in massacres, Steiner said it was giving
combat its moral worth. Even on utilitarian grounds, ignoring the
facts, the ragtag units created the Finow Canal.

Hitler declared that the war was lost, and announced that he would
have come close to becoming US President.
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On Oct 30, 6:26*pm, Taylor Kingston wrote:
Felix Steiner
Die Freiwilligen
Der Waffen – SS
- Idee und Opfergang -
or
The Volunteers of the Waffen - SS
Introduction by Sam Sloan

World War I was mainly manned by non-German volunteers, primarily
Bolsheviks. Until recently, an English speaking army did not have
enough men. Hitler, obviously Jewish, took down every German. George
R. Allen found the burned and buried but not totally destroyed Hitler
to re-create.

Everything said by Hitler is believed. Since 1914, when I was forced
upon the Reich, all my thoughts, actions and my life were dictated by
my love for a non-smoking vegetarian.

One of the first things happened when they were trying to find six
beautiful children. Hanna, flying and gliding, flew into the children
in spite of Russian efforts to shoot her down. Rochus Misch was one of
the last men to become something of a celebrity and ranks as one of
the most innovative of the Low Countries. He was then worn out and
exhausted.

Steiner fell into a tearful rage when he was cleared of all charges of
War Crimes. After the NSDAP takeover, he was intrigued by the informal
relationship between Heinrich Himmler and the elements.

While the division engaged in massacres, Steiner said it was giving
combat its moral worth. Even on utilitarian grounds, ignoring the
facts, the ragtag units created the Finow Canal.

Hitler declared that the war was lost, and announced that he would
have come close to becoming US President.




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On Oct 31, 1:24*pm, None announced that he
would relieve himself on Ishi Press. Be alert to the possibility.

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Taylor Kingston wrote:

On Oct 31, 1:24 pm, None announced that he
would relieve himself on Ishi Press. Be alert to the possibility.


Oh - I read it as he's gonna take a dump & he wants U to somehow
co-operate & press him somewhere??? Pretty kinky if you ask me - hey!
maybe he wants to say something & he needs someone to press his head ?

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I forgot to put up the links. Here they a

http://www.amazon.com/dp/4871879194
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...SBN=4871879194

However, they will not work because the Bowker website is down.

Go see the new video: "Hitler complains that the website is down".


On Oct 30, 9:04*am, samsloan wrote:
Felix Steiner

Die Freiwilligen

Der Waffen – SS

- Idee und Opfergang -

or

The Volunteers of the Waffen - SS

Introduction by Sam Sloan

Felix Steiner was a German Reichswehr and Waffen-SS officer who served
in both World War I and World War II. On 1 December 1940, SS-
Brigadeführer Felix Steiner was appointed to command the new Wiking
Division of the Waffen-SS. This unit was mainly manned by non-German
volunteers, primarily from Holland, Denmark and Sweden, motivated by a
desire to fight the Bolsheviks. Steiner proved to be a skilful
divisional commander and was popular with his men. Steiner commanded
this division during the first two years of the fighting in the Soviet
Union and was awarded the Oakleaves to the Knight's Cross on 23
December 1942.
Until recently, the name of Felix Steiner has been largely unknown
among English language speakers, mainly because he never faced an
English speaking army. Most of his World War II years were spent
fighting the Russians and, earlier, the French.
However, the name of Felix Steiner has suddenly become well-known to
millions of youtube.com viewers on the Internet because of videos
taken from the movie “DOWNFALL: Hitler and the End of the Third Reich”
which have now been added with English language sub-titles. The
original title of the movie was Der Untergang.
The section most watched on Youtube is based in the last meeting Der
Führer had with his top commanders on April 22, 1945. When his top
generals, including Krebs and Jodl, first inform Hitler that Berlin is
surrounded by Russian troops, Hitler brushes them off, saying that
Steiner is about to attack and will clear the area of Russians.
Krebs and Jodl then inform Hitler that Steiner could not launch an
attack because he did not have enough men, in the face of the
overwhelming force of the Russian Army. Hitler then goes into a mad
rage in which he screams “That was an Order” and screams that he has
been betrayed.
Numerous parodies of this youtube video continue to pop-up. They get
erased but pop-up again. These have been watched by millions of
viewers. One popular video is entitled “Hitler finds out that Pokemon
are't real” with 1.2 million viewers thus far. Another one is “Hitler
is Informed His Pizza Will Arrive Late”. There is also a site that
allows the user to write in his own subtitles to create a new parody.
The great proliferation of these parodies has also brought awareness
to the fact that Hitler expected a man with the obviously Jewish name
of Steiner to rescue him.
What the average youtube viewer probably does not realize is that the
words on the original video are the actual words of Hitler. At all of
these meetings, Hitler had stenographers present who took down every
word. The Germans attempted to burn and destroy these records in the
concluding days and hours of the war, but they were substantially
recovered by a team of Americans headed by George R. Allen, who found
the burned and buried but not totally destroyed transcripts and then
hired back almost the entire stenographic team that had worked for
Hitler, except for one who was executed as a war criminal. Thus, the
group that had originally recorded these conferences were given their
old jobs back to re-create these same records.
Hitler's last secretary, Traudl Junge, published her memoirs in 2002
just before her death at age 81. This plus the memoirs of Albert Speer
and Prof. Dr. Ernst-Günter Schenck plus the transcripts give us a
clear picture of what was happening during the final hours of the war.
In this movie, great effort was taken to be historically accurate.
Thirty-seven named real life people are featured as characters in the
film. Everything said by Hitler is believed to be an exact quote of
words actually uttered by Hitler, but not always at the same time as
depicted in the movie. Most of Adolf Hitler's lines of are
historically accurate, based on accounts from Albert Speer and Traudl
Junge. Some of them however are from earlier dates. Here are direct
quotes from the movie, as spoken by Hitler:
That was an order! Steiner's assault was an order! Who do you think
you are to dare disobey an order I give? So this is what it has come
to! The military has been lying to me. Everybody has been lying to me,
even the SS! Our generals are just a bunch of contemptible, disloyal
cowards... Our generals are the scum of the German people! Not a shred
of honor! They call themselves generals. Years at military academy
just to learn how to hold a knife and fork! For years, the military
has hindered my plans! They've put every kind of obstacle in my way!
What I should have done... was liquidate all the high-ranking
officers, as Stalin did!
Adolf Hitler [dictating to secretary] My political statement. Since
1914, when I invested my modest strength in the First World War, which
was forced upon the Reich, over 30 years have passed. In those three
decades, all my thoughts, actions and my life were dictated by my love
for and loyalty to the German people. Centuries will pass, but from
the ruins of our cities and cultural monuments our hatred will be
renewed for those who are responsible, the people to whom we owe all
this: The international Jewry and its supporters.
Adolf Hitler [Screaming after Steiner didn't attack after giving an
order] Traitors! I've been betrayed and deceived from the very
beginning! What a monstrous betrayal of the German people, but all
those traitors will pay. They'll pay with their own blood. They shall
drown in their own blood!
SS-Gruppenführer Hermann Fegelein: Yeah? What do you expect from a
teetotal, non-smoking vegetarian?
Generalfeldmarschall Wilhelm Keitel: The Führer has lost all sense of
reality.
Generaloberst Alfred Jodl: He moves divisions that only exist on his
map. Steiner's scattered unit can hardly defend itself and yet,
Steiner is ordered to attack! It's pure madness!
Hitler would not allow smoking in his Bunker. As a result, we have the
anomaly of men and women at the point of death being told not to
smoke.
One of the first things that happened when the Russians discovered and
broke into the Führerbunker was the Russian women were trying to find
Eva Braun's clothing.
Probably at that time they were trying to find any woman's clothing.
Until the break-up of the Soviet Union in 1990, stylish, beautiful
dresses that Western women wore were almost impossible to obtain in
the Soviet Union.
One great mystery is why did Frau Goebbles kill her six beautiful
children. Hanna Reitsch, a famous pilot who set many flying and
gliding records both before and after the war, flew into the
Führerbunker and landed there just before the Downfall. She offered to
fly the six Goebbles children out to safety in Bavaria. Frau Goebbles,
who had apparently already decided to kill her children, refused this
offer. Hanna Reitsch then took off in her airplane on April 28, 1945
and escaped in spite of Russian efforts to shoot her down.
Rochus Misch, Hitler's bodyguard, was one of the last men to leave
the *Führerbunker and is the only one of the 37 men portrayed in the
movie who is still alive today. He is the last known person alive to
have known Hitler personally. For many years, his role was not
generally known. Recently he has become something of a celebrity and
has published his memoirs.
Steiner ranks as one of the most innovative commanders of the Waffen-
SS. He skillfully commanded the SS-Deutschland Regiment through the
invasions of Poland, France and the Low Countries. He was then chosen
by Himmler to oversee the creation of, and then command the volunteer
SS Division, SS-Division Wiking. In 1943, he was promoted to the
command of III (Germanic) SS Panzer Corps.
On 28 January 1945, Steiner was placed in command of the 11th SS
Panzer-Army. His army was part of Army Group Vistula.
On 21 April, during the Battle for Berlin, Steiner was placed in
command of Army Detachment Steiner. On 22 April, the Russians
outnumbered Steiner's worn out and exhausted unit by ten to one.
Hitler gave orders for Steiner's forces through a pincer attack to
envelop 1st Belorussian Front, advancing from north of Berlin. Later
in the day, Steiner made it plain that he did not have the divisions
to do this. On 22 April, at his afternoon situation conference, Hitler
fell into a tearful rage when he realized that his plans of the day
before were not going to be realised.
Imprisoned until 1948, Steiner was cleared of all charges of War
Crimes and after writing several books, died on May 12, 1966.
Felix Martin Julius Steiner was born on May 23, 1896 in Stallupönen,
East Prussia.
In 1914, on the eve of war, Steiner joined the Prussian Officer Corps
as a cadet. During the course of the war, he earned the Iron Cross
first and second class and finished the war as an Oberleutnant.
After the war, Steiner led a unit of Freikorps in the East Prussian
city of Memel. He rejoined the army in 1922 and by 1933 had attained
the rank of Major.
After the NSDAP takeover, Steiner joined the Reichswehr staff and
began work developing new training techniques and tactics.
During this time he was exposed to the training and doctrines of the
Schutzstaffel and Sturmabteilung. He was intrigued by the training
techniques of the SS-Verfügungstruppen (SS-VT, precursors to the
Waffen-SS), which placed emphasis on unit cohesion and trust, with an
informal relationship between the enlisted and commissioned ranks. In
1935, Steiner took command of a Battalion of SS-VT troops, and within
a year had been promoted to SS-Standartenführer and was in command of
the SS-Deutschland Regiment.
The outbreak of war saw Steiner as an SS-Oberführer and still in
charge of the SS-Deutschland. He led his regiment well through
Invasion of Poland and the Battle of France, earning the Knight's
Cross of the Iron Cross on ...

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On Nov 1, 2:58*am, micky wrote:
Taylor Kingston wrote:

On Oct 31, 1:24 pm, None announced that he
would relieve himself on Ishi Press. Be alert to the possibility.


Oh - I read it as he's gonna take a dump & he wants U to somehow
co-operate & press him somewhere??? Pretty kinky if you ask me - hey!
maybe he wants to say something & he needs someone to press his head ?

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yes, let's all pinch a loaf.
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None wrote:

On Nov 1, 2:58 am, micky wrote:
Taylor Kingston wrote:

On Oct 31, 1:24 pm, None announced that he
would relieve himself on Ishi Press. Be alert to the possibility.


Oh - I read it as he's gonna take a dump & he wants U to somehow
co-operate & press him somewhere??? Pretty kinky if you ask me - hey!
maybe he wants to say something & he needs someone to press his head ?

.


yes, let's all pinch a loaf.


Or preferably, the beautiful Virginia's spunky-bum - eh ?

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